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		<title>Elizabeth Genco on Blue</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Elizabeth Genco caught my attention a month or so back, with a post she did for Blog@Newsarama on &#8220;How to Get Your Indie Book into Comic Shops&#8221;. If more indie creators sought the counsel of retailers like she did , I think we&#8217;d see a great deal more successfully marketed projects. I contacted her to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p align="left"><a href="http://www.desperadopublishing.com/PREVIEWS/blue%20Preview.htm" target="_blank"><img src="http://talkingwithtim.com/images/blue-f-cvr.jpg" align="right" height="250" hspace="20" vspace="10" width="161" /></a><strong><a href="http://www.elizabethgenco.com/">Elizabeth Genco</a></strong> caught my attention a month or so back, with a <strong><a href="http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/05/14/how-to-get-your-indie-book-into-comic-shops/">post</a></strong> she did for Blog@Newsarama on &#8220;How to Get Your Indie Book into Comic Shops&#8221;. If more indie creators sought the counsel of retailers like she did , I think we&#8217;d see a great deal more successfully marketed projects. I contacted her to discuss her upcoming work, <a href="http://bluecomics.blogspot.com/" target="_blank"><strong>Blue</strong></a>&#8211;partially because I respected her marketing savvy.</p>
<p align="left">Here&#8217;s the official word on the project:</p>
<p align="left">&#8220;BLUE<br />
by Elizabeth Genco w/art by Sami Makkonen, coming July 2008 from Desperado Publishing. Available for pre-order in MAY 08 PREVIEWS (MAY083778). Preview pages <a href="http://www.desperadopublishing.com/PREVIEWS/blue%20Preview.htm"><strong>HERE</strong></a>.</p>
<p align="left">A fresh, fantastic take on the bloodiest of classic fairy tales. When Blue&#8217;s ex-boyfriend appears on her doorstep, he says he wants to make things right. His true intentions are far more sinister. Blue&#8217;s shape-shifting powers can help her outrun him, but to survive, she must face him as herself.&#8221;</p>
<p>And, rather than trying to summarize her diverse bio, I merely direct you to go <strong><a href="http://www.elizabethgenco.com/about/">here</a></strong>. Finally, I am fairly certain this is the first time I have interviewed a busker&#8211;I could be wrong.</p>
<p align="left"><strong>Tim O&#8217;Shea</strong>: How did you end up collaborating with Finnish artist Sami Makkonen?</p>
<p align="left"><strong>Elizabeth Genco</strong>: Oh, gosh, I&#8217;m not even sure anymore! I think I first found his work on The Engine, maybe? I can&#8217;t remember exactly, but I do remember thinking, &#8220;This guy is the bomb&#8230; he&#8217;s probably got starving writers crawling all over him&#8230; he&#8217;ll never have time for l&#8217;il old me!&#8221; But I tend to be pretty ballsy when it comes to approaching artists, so I just gave it a shot.</p>
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<p align="left"><strong>O&#8217;Shea</strong>: For many folks, this may be the first time they are hearing about your work with Blue, but could you give folks a run-down of some of your past projects&#8211;your name has popped up in projects as far back as 2002 as far as I could tell?</p>
<p align="left"><strong>Genco</strong>: I&#8217;ve been tooling around the indy comics scene for a while now and have done quite a few different things. <em>PLATFORM</em> was a zine I used to make about playing Irish fiddle in the subways of New York. It wasn&#8217;t a comic, but it was my first writing project and it did pretty well &#8211; I had appearances in <em>JANE</em> and <em>The Village Voice</em>. <strong><em>WEIRD SISTER</em></strong> was my first self-published comics project, and I also worked on projects like <strong>STYX TAXI</strong> (Steven Goldman) and <strong>SMUT PEDDLER</strong> (<strong><a href="http://www.lightspeedpress.com/">Carla Speed McNeil</a></strong> and others). I&#8217;ve had work in <strong><em>NEGATIVE BURN</em></strong> (Desperado&#8217;s anthology book) and I&#8217;m a contributing editor to <strong><em>WEIRD TALES</em></strong>. I wrote a column on writing for Scryptic Studios for a while, and have contributed to the <strong><a href="http://www.endicott-studio.com/">Endicott Studio</a></strong>, a loose collective of mythic artists under the direction of fantasy luminaries Terri Windling and Midori Snyder.</p>
<p align="left"><strong>O&#8217;Shea</strong>: In what ways do you think your&#8217;s and Makkonen&#8217;s styles and storytelling approaches compliment each other?</p>
<p align="left"><strong>Genco</strong>: I&#8217;m a lot more visual than most writers. I struggle with inarticulation; I love words and collect them like love letters but that doesn&#8217;t mean they come easy. My training in Tarot has taught me how to think symbolically and communicate with pictures, even when I can&#8217;t create them myself. On top of that, I&#8217;m married to a guy who primarily thinks in pictures, and that sneaks out in some very subtle ways. Let&#8217;s just say that NOT being an artist is very frustrating for me sometimes!</p>
<p align="left">Sami is very, very good at translating my pictures to words back into pictures again without losing much of anything in the process. His style is also perfect for a lot of the inner landscape stuff that&#8217;s going on with a lot of my characters. As for me complimenting HIM, well, I just try to give him good material to work with and plenty of room to do what he does best.</p>
<p align="left"><strong>O&#8217;Shea</strong>: What are the biggest lessons you&#8217;ve learned from the retailers whose counsel you sought in terms of how to market Blue?</p>
<p align="left"><strong>Genco</strong>: Get the book done well in advance of solicitation. Hands down, no question.</p>
<p align="left">Now, I thought we were doing pretty well on that score. We handed it in on time and didn&#8217;t even pitch it &#8217;til it was 85% done &#8211; something that&#8217;s not too common, at least not in the circles I run in. I&#8217;ve had friends ask me, &#8220;What the hell are you doing full graphic novels for? Pitches, girl, pitches!!&#8221; But I have never been a pitch machine, I do not play the &#8220;X meets Y&#8221; game very well, and I&#8217;m not interested in a story just because I can sell it.</p>
<p align="left">Ah, but I digress. The point is, we would have had many more promo opportunities if the book had been 100% done in February rather than May. And I know that putting a &#8220;stand-in&#8221; cover in PREVIEWS as we did is pretty standard practice, but all the same, getting it done is always best. Duly noted for next time!</p>
<p align="left"><strong>O&#8217;Shea</strong>: How much has the idea of Blue evolved while you were developing it. How does the original idea compare to the completed project you have now&#8211;did a great deal of revision occur along the way&#8211;or is the story still the core essence of the idea you first had for it?</p>
<p align="left"><strong>Genco</strong>: The core is definitely the same and didn&#8217;t change much at all. The book did get radically edited at the very end of the game &#8211; ie, AFTER it had been accepted. It started out as a shorter story, and I&#8217;d pitched it to Joe (Pruett at Desperado) as a shorter story &#8211; kind of like a European comics album. He wanted to give us more pages, maybe make the book be an anthology. So I said to Sami, cool, let&#8217;s do another short story. And Sami said, no, we need to make the story we have BETTER&#8230; even though he knew it would mean redrawing and upping the page count considerably.</p>
<p align="left">I know it sounds incredibly self-serving, but the truth is, I try very hard to put the stories above my ego and serve THEM. So you can see, perhaps, why I like working with Sami so much! *laugh*</p>
<p align="left"><strong>O&#8217;Shea</strong>: Do you and husband/fellow storyteller <strong><a href="http://www.streetfables.com/">Leland Purvis</a></strong> ever brainstorm about ideas you&#8217;re trying to work through, or do you avoid that intentionally?</p>
<p align="left"><strong>Genco</strong>: Oh, absolutely. It&#8217;s funny (and I can admit this publically because Leland is well aware of it), when he and I were first starting to fall, the voice in the back of my head kept saying, &#8220;Yeah this is great and everything, but does he know stories? Because you&#8217;re not going to be able to handle it if he doesn&#8217;t know from stories.&#8221; That makes me laugh now, because it&#8217;s ridiculously clear from his work (which, of course, I was pawing over madly at the time) just how talented a storyteller he is.</p>
<p align="left">Leland is deeply interested in creativity and creative people, as am I. So we&#8217;ve intentionally created an environment in which conversations about stories and storytelling and art occur as a matter of course. That said, Ursula LeGuin once compared stories to feral kittens &#8211; i.e., hard to tame, easy to scare off. Nothing chases the kittens away quite like talking too much. So I speak softly or not at all until they&#8217;re firmly in my clutches. *cackle*</p>
<p align="left"><strong>O&#8217;Shea</strong>: When writing, do you have to work in absolute silence, or do you like having music or CNN or something on in the background while you work?</p>
<p align="left"><strong>Genco</strong>: I have to have absolute silence. It&#8217;s kind of maddening. Leland and I work in the same space and he is just the opposite. He is extremely patient with me on this, something for which I am eternally grateful.</p>
<p align="left"><strong>O&#8217;Shea</strong>: What can you tell folks about your contribution to the <strong><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Comic-Book-Tattoo-Tales-Inspired/dp/1582409641">upcoming Tori Amos project</a></strong> for Image?</p>
<p align="left"><strong>Genco</strong>: The promo juggernaut has started, so I can talk about it a little bit more! I&#8217;m not sure what to say except that I was positively thrilled to get asked and then over the moon when Carla Speed&#8217;s name came up. I could sit here and try to be all blase and cool and &#8220;oh, this old thing?&#8221; about it, but the truth is, I&#8217;m a Tori NERD and proud of it. Her music has had a huge influence on me &#8211; her lines are always inspiring this thing or that thing. (There&#8217;s a story of mine on the <strong><a href="http://www.endicott-studio.com/">Endicott Studio</a></strong> website that Leland illustrated; it&#8217;s called <a href="http://www.endicott-studio.com/rdrm/rrCooling.html"><strong><em>Cooling</em></strong></a>. Same deal.)</p>
<p align="left">That&#8217;s usually how I work with songs and stories &#8211; I look for a line to set it all off. In this case, I was looking for a way in, and even though the song has a real meaning and mood for me, I was struggling. We were specifically asked to avoid &#8220;illustrated lyrics.&#8221; Makes perfect sense, and I&#8217;m not interested in that anyway. But that still left me looking for a way in!</p>
<p align="left">The line is &#8220;You&#8217;re counting my feathers as the bells toll.&#8221; It was like, &#8220;Oh yeah. Right.&#8221;</p>
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